Tak som mal vcera debatu s istym clovekom o prevodnikoch. Tu je vycuc pouzitych cipov v zariadeniach. Tieto AD/DA su jednou z najdolezitejsich sucasti prevodnika. Samozrejme je dolezity zdroj a preamp, ale tiez pouzity prevodnik. Zaujimave je vidiet ze niektore lacne zariadenia pouzivaju tie iste cipy ako zariadenia za tisicky eur. A niekedy tie lacnejsie maju lepsie napisane drivre ako tie drahe. A neverim ze napr. 1000evrovy rozdiel urobi 1000 nasobne lepsi zvuk.

ALESIS
IO|26 CS5361

ALLEN&HEATH
R16 AD CS5368 DA Burr-Brown PCM1404 Main I/O CS4271

APOGEE
Ensemble CS4272
DUET: CS4272/MICPRE TI PGA2500/ 1394AUDIO Oxfw971
AD8000SE: A/D:AKM AK5391; D/A: Analog Devices AD1851
Rosetta 200: A/D:CS5361 D/A: Analog Devices AD1852
MiniDAC:AD1955 ARS
MiniMe: A/D AKM 5380VT, D/A (monitoring) AKM 4380VT
AD-16X DAC CS4398 ADC CS5381 or CS5361

ART
Tube Fire8: adc-AK5384; dac-AK4358

BENCHMARK
DAC1: D/A: Analog Devices AD1853 5532 opamp

BEHRINGER
SRC2496:AKM AK5393 AK4393 JRC 458

DIGIDESIGN
192 I/O PTHD: A/D:AKM AK5394A; D/A: AKM AK4394
001 CS4223 CS4223 OPAMP - TL074
002R: A/D:AKM AK5383vs D/A: AKM AK4393vs
003 A/D CS5381 CS5361 D/A CS4392
MBox AK5383 AK5383 TAS1020
MBox2 Mini: ADC - CS5361

ECLER
EVO5: A/D CS5366-CQZ and D/A CS4385

ECHO AUDIO
Indigo DJx - AK4396
Indigo IOx - AK4620B
Indigo DJx - AK4396
Indigo IOx - AK4620B
AudioFire 2 (Newer models) - AK4620B
AudioFire 2 (Older models) - AK4620A
AudioFire 4 (Newer models) - AK4620B
AudioFire 4 (Older models) - AK4620A
AudioFire 8 - CS4272
AudioFire 8a (Newer model w/ ADAT) - AK4620B
AudioFire Pre8 - AK4620B
AudioFire 12 (Newer models: FireWire ports' beveled edges pointing down) - AK4620B
AudioFire 12 (Older models: FireWire ports' beveled edges pointing up) - CS4272
Layla3G - CS4272
Gina3G - CS42426
Echo Gina24 A/D AK4393 D/A AK5383
Indigo dj - CS4392
Indigo i/o - CS4272
MiaMIDI - AK4528

EGO Systems/ESI
ESU1808 Akm Ak5384 ADC Akm Ak4358vq
MAXIO EX8K: A/D:AKM AK5394A; D/A: AKM AK4395
MaXiO 032e AK5394, AK4395
Juli@: A/D:AKM AK5385A; D/A: AKM AK4358

E-MU Systems
0202 USB: CS4392 AK5385m
0404 USB AK5385a AK4396
TRACKER PRE AK5385, CS4392
0404: PCM1804 AKM AK4395
1820: PCM1804 CS4392
1212m AK5394 CS4398
1616m AK5394 CS4398
1820M AK5394A CS4398 JRC2068

FOCUSRITE
Saffire CS42428-CQ
Saffire LE CS42432-DMZ
Saffire 6 USB CS4272
Platinum 8 OctoPre AKM5383 AKM5383
Saffire Pro CS4272
Liquid Saffire 56 CS4272

KRK
Ergo A/D AK4620 D/A AK4396 ASRC AK4122

LEXICON
fw810s CS4272-CZZ CS42426 dbx TypeIV

LINE 6
TonePort/Studio UX1/UX2 : AK4528
TonePort UX8 : CS4272
Pod X3 : CS4272

LUCID
AD9624 A/D:CS5396
DA9624 D/A:CS5396
ADA8824: A/D:AKM AK5392; D/A: AKM AK4324

LYNX Studio
TWO/L22: A/D:AKM AK5394A; D/A: Cirrus Logic CS4396
AES16?AK4114x8
AES16-SRC?AK4114x8?AD1896x4
AURORA CS5381

MACKIE
FIREWIRE CARD ONYX A/D AK5384 D/A AK4528
ONYX 400/F 1200F A/D AK5385 D/A AK4358

M-AUDIO
Audiophile 192 AKM AK5385A AK4358
Audiophile 2496 AK4528VF AK4528VF CS8427
Delta44 & 66 AK4524
Delta1010 A/D AK5383 D/A AK4393
ProjectMix A/D AK5381 D/A AK4358
Firewire Solo ADC AK5357?DAC AK4381
Firewire 410 : Envy24 HT, AK4355/AK4381, AK5380
FireWire 1814 Input 1&2 A/D AK5385A, Ins 3-8 A/D AK5381, D/A AK4358
Profire 610, 2626: AK4620

MOTU
MOTU 828 AK4321VF CS4223-KS OPAMPS - 4580
MOTU 828 Mk2 AK4528*8/AK4382 DAC for main outs
MOTU 2408 mk3 AKM AK4528VF
MOTU 828mk3 TI PGA2500,CS5364 8in CS5368, volume CS3308 8out AK4358 AK4382 MAIN AK4396
MOTU 8pre AK5385 AK4382
MOTU HD192 AK5394
MOTU 896HD AKM 5385
Motu Ultralite: AK4620AVF
Motu Traveller: A/D AK5385AVS, sorry no info for D/a

METRIC HALO

Mobile I/O 2882?DSP A/D AK5383 D/A AK4393
ULN2: A/D is the AKM 5383 and D/A is the AKM 4393
ULN8 AKM 5394 AKM 4395

MYTEK
8X96:ADC - CS5396 (or CS8427?) DAC - CS5396

KRK
Ergo DAC AKM4396

NOVATION
nio 2 | 4(CS4272,AK4394)

PRESONUS
Presonus Firebox ADC:AKM AK5384 DAC: AKM AK4358/ST Micro MC33078,33079
PreSonus FireStudio 26in26out(8in8out)AK5384 AK4358?
PreSonus FIREPOD 10in10out(8in8out) AK5384 AK4358?
MSR (monitor studio remote) for Presonus FireStudio WM8590GEDS
Presonus Firestudio Mobile AD PCM4204 DA PCM4104

PRISMSOUND
Orpheus A/D CS5381 D/A CS4398, Mic pre PGA2500, Line ins OPA2134, Line outs venerable 5532 (TI ver), Headphone out OPA2134
DA-2 TDA 1547
ADA-8XR AKM AK4395

RME
RME ADI-2: A/D:AKM AK5385 D/A: AKM AK4395
RME ADI-8: A/D AK5392 D/A AD1852
RME ADI-8 DS: A/D:AKM AK5393A; D/A: Analog Devices AD1852
RME Digi96/8 PST/PAD: A/D AK5383 D/A Analog Devices AD1852
RME HDSP 9632: A/D:AKM AK5385A; D/A: Analog Devices AD1852
RME HDSPe AIO ADC - CS5361 DAC - AD1852
RME FIREFACE 800 A/D AK5385 D/A AK4395(AK4396 since March 2005)
RME FIREFACE 400 A/D D/A AK4620A
RME FIREFACE UFX A/D CS5368 D/A PCM4104
RME Multiface 1: A/D D/A AK4528VF
RME Multiface 2: A/D D/A AK5383

ROLAND
Edirol UA-101 USB 2.0 A/D CS5340 D/A AKM 4385
EDIROL UA-25 DAC AK4385 ADC AK5381 DAI AK4114?USB TUSB3200
EDIROL UA-1EX DAC AK4385 ADC AK5357 DAI AK4114 USB TUSB3200
EDIROL FA66 AKM 4385VT CS5340

SM PRO AUDIO
ADDA 192-S: A/D CS5381 D/A CS4398

STEINBERG
MR816 AD AK5385BVF-E2 DA AK4358VQ
Yamaha N-12 AD AKM AK5385 DA AKM AK4393 and AK4382A for AUX and phones. Discrete preamp -> JRC2068MD Op-amps for unbalancing -> insert jack -> NE5532DA for balancing before the ADC

TASCAM
TASCAM US-144 A/D AK5385 D/A AK4384
TASCAM US-122L DAC AK4384 ADC AK5381

T.C.electronic
TC KONNEKT 24D/live: AK4620b INA163
Studio KONNEKT48 DA AK4359 AK4385, AD AK5358 AK5359 OPAMP JRC 2068
TC Impact Twin AD/DA AK4620 Output opamps 4-NE5532.


TERRATEC
terratec x24 phase cs42426



OTHER BRANDS
AQVOX USB 2 D/A MKII PCM17964
Audioresearch DAC7 PCM1792
Berkley Audio Design Alfa Dac AD1955A
Bryston BDA-1 CS-4398
Cambridge Audio Dac Magic WM8740
Cary Audio Xciter Dac AK4399
Lavry Da11 Analog Devices 1955
Logitech Transporter AKM AK4396
Matrix mini-i AD1955
Musical Fidelity V-Dac Burr Brown DSD1792
Northstar Extremo PCM1792
Ps Audio Dac III: Burr Brown 1798
PS Audio Perfect Wave DAC WM8741
Stello Da-100 signature AK4395, AD1896 upsampler
Sutra DAC 1 Burr-Brown 1740
Weiss Dac2 Burr Brown PCM1792
Weiss Dac 202 Sabre ESS9018
Weiss Medea DAC AD1853

Zdroj: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/geekslu ... ters+chips

delayko píše:A neverim ze napr. 1000evrovy rozdiel urobi 1000 nasobne lepsi zvuk.

To je jako bys chtěl věřil že 20 000eurový rozdíl v ceně auta udělá 20 000x lepší jízdní vlastnosti

Součástky nejsou až tak podstatné. Můžeš dát pár lidem úplně stejné suroviny k přípravě jídla, dobrý talentovaný kuchař z toho udělá pochoutku, člověk bez citu a zkušeností z toho udělá nepoživatelnou patlaninu ... Co je u převodníků a dalších přístrojů jedině podstatné je zvuk - a o tom použitý chip neřekne skoro nic . Tam jde spíš o jiné věci - analogové obvody, další elektronika, kvalita zdroje, designové myšlenky atd atd ...

Delayko: Tvoje vira nebo nevira je hodne irelevantni. Relevantni je jenom to, ze pro tvoje potreby ti vyhovuje "to a to" a ne "tamto a tamto" a nepotrebujes "tamhleto". Jak pise ivo, prevodnik dela hodne dalsich veci nez je chip a ten chip se da taky jinak nastavit/naprogramovat. Rozdily mezi tim jak "prevadi" levna zvukovka a rozumnej prevodnik jsou propastny pro lidi, ktery takovou kvalitu potrebujou. A hromada lidi opravdu neco takovyho nepotrebuje a jenom by mrhali svoje prostredky. Kdyz ale slysis a mas adekvatni poslech, kvalita ti prinese nalezity ovoce.

Zajimavejsi by ta "tabulka" byla, kdyby byla serazena podle cipu. Ale rychly prohledani naslo treba zajimavou spojitost Apogee minime a Lavry Black. A ty opravdu nejde ani nahodou posadit vedle sebe a neslyset zasadni rozdil.