midi keyboard, edirol pcr 500 nebo akai mpk49
midi keyboard, edirol pcr 500 nebo akai mpk49
chtěl bych koupit jeden z těchto dvou, ten akai je vcelku zajimavy (all in one), ale nevim jestli si pouze nepriplatim za znacku, provozovat to budu pod w. vista, cvakani do sekveneceru a na ovladani viruse c .....pady obcas vyuziji, fadery by mely byt u edirolu horsi, podle recenzi, klapky newim
viz
akai mpk49 12000kč
edirol pcr 500 7000 kč
viz
akai mpk49 12000kč
edirol pcr 500 7000 kč
- loudspeaker
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U AKAIe na ty Pady ale pozor...jsou li tam pouzity stejne jako u AKAIe mpd24 ...chce to poradnou silu v rukou a prsty budou taky pekne bolet......jede to dosti ztuha a clovek se docela unavi...
vubec se to neda srovnat treba s mpc500 to je uplne jine.
Jinak knoby a potaky jsou jedny z nejkvalitnejsi jake jsem u kontroleru videl...
vubec se to neda srovnat treba s mpc500 to je uplne jine.
Jinak knoby a potaky jsou jedny z nejkvalitnejsi jake jsem u kontroleru videl...
Vzhledem k cene z druhe ruky:
http://hudba.i-bazar.cz/ostatni/akai-mpc500/
Nevyplati se rovnou koupit Mpc500? I uzitna hodnota ponekud nabyva.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ulv-l-yN_iY&feature=related
pekna ukazka
http://hudba.i-bazar.cz/ostatni/akai-mpc500/
Nevyplati se rovnou koupit Mpc500? I uzitna hodnota ponekud nabyva.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ulv-l-yN_iY&feature=related
pekna ukazka
tohle me ale zase mirne odrazuje:
I got mine a few days ago.
It's solid, for sure....
Nice sliders and pots.
Never owned a controller with pads before, and I find them not to be sensitive enough.
I mean you really have to hit them for the sounds to be triggered (even if you set the sensitivity to the max).
Downsides:
I can not sync the arp and note repeat thing to logic using midi clock.
I tried everything that is written in the manual, but it just doesn't work once the sync is set to external.
Big Big disappointment: I've got a beringher rotary control thingy with a nice "learn" function (you click "learn" and the target assignment pot, just modify the source, wherever it is in you midi set up, and it's recognize and assigned - CC, At..., simple and efficient)
I can't believe the mpk49 doesn't have an equivalent!.
You've got to find by whatsoever way which midi signal your desired source controller is allocated to, then assign it manually to the mpk49.
Another thing: the mpk does have a preview system which allows you to know the state of your controller before modifying it. So you've got adjust it if you want to start from the same value and avoid a jump.
Sorry, but beringher came with a much more elegant solution, which is called "relative": you define your pot as a relative encoder from the beginning, and that it, every time you start to move it, it will pick up from the last value.
And another thing: do the controller encode 14bits message? I could no find it.
The standard 7 bits things horrify my sometimes with the "step by step" effect.
I got mine a few days ago.
It's solid, for sure....
Nice sliders and pots.
Never owned a controller with pads before, and I find them not to be sensitive enough.
I mean you really have to hit them for the sounds to be triggered (even if you set the sensitivity to the max).
Downsides:
I can not sync the arp and note repeat thing to logic using midi clock.
I tried everything that is written in the manual, but it just doesn't work once the sync is set to external.
Big Big disappointment: I've got a beringher rotary control thingy with a nice "learn" function (you click "learn" and the target assignment pot, just modify the source, wherever it is in you midi set up, and it's recognize and assigned - CC, At..., simple and efficient)
I can't believe the mpk49 doesn't have an equivalent!.
You've got to find by whatsoever way which midi signal your desired source controller is allocated to, then assign it manually to the mpk49.
Another thing: the mpk does have a preview system which allows you to know the state of your controller before modifying it. So you've got adjust it if you want to start from the same value and avoid a jump.
Sorry, but beringher came with a much more elegant solution, which is called "relative": you define your pot as a relative encoder from the beginning, and that it, every time you start to move it, it will pick up from the last value.
And another thing: do the controller encode 14bits message? I could no find it.
The standard 7 bits things horrify my sometimes with the "step by step" effect.
a zde vsechny problemy ve videu: akai na youtube
- Pierre niko
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According to the manual, the pads are identical to those featured on Akai's MPC500 (the smallest and most portable member of the MPC family). In any case, they're comfortable and feel reassuringly durable.zlato píše: U AKAIe na ty Pady ale pozor...jsou li tam pouzity stejne jako u AKAIe mpd24 ...vubec se to neda srovnat treba s mpc500 to je uplne jine...
Taky po nem posilhavam...
nakonec nejsem zadny excelentni hrac na klavesy , takze za tu castku penez chci vice zarizeni.... vzal jsem pcr 500 a k tomu korg pad kontrol ...jeste necim nahradim uc33E (vyrojilo se mrte novych kontroleru pro ableton live ....vcetne zajimaveho mixu od korga , zero 4 , ...zero 8 korg 8 kombinujici audio a midi ovladani abletonu) ....vypada to ze s tim akai je vice problemu nez uzitku 

No, tak mám ty M-Audio Axiom 61 a nemůžu nic než doporučit, 9 úrovní (křivek) citlivosti jak na 8 padů, tak na klávesy, do padů se nijak mlátit nemusí
Celou první noc jsem je zkoušel a žádný otekliny na prstech
Polovyvážený klávesy... pravda, že jsem ještě nepřiřadil fadery a tak, ale myslím, že za tu cenu je to hodně využitelná mašinka...



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and here we go again..
zdravim,
prave riesim rovnaky ´problem´. Mate nejake nove info popripade dojmy, odskusane tipy, uz s tym ktorym konkretnym midi keyboardom?
s midi prave len zacinam a potrebujem klaves
Moj main DAW je FL8 a rad by som si vytiahol aj fadery z mixu takze tieto dva su pre mna idealne. Nechcem to riesit samostatnymi / Korg nano ap /
ide o to aby som sa v tom celom mapovani, splitoch, atd.. na zaciatok moc nezahltil.. teda hladam nieco prehladne co bude bezproblemovo bezat s FL8
dik za info..
prave riesim rovnaky ´problem´. Mate nejake nove info popripade dojmy, odskusane tipy, uz s tym ktorym konkretnym midi keyboardom?
s midi prave len zacinam a potrebujem klaves
Moj main DAW je FL8 a rad by som si vytiahol aj fadery z mixu takze tieto dva su pre mna idealne. Nechcem to riesit samostatnymi / Korg nano ap /
ide o to aby som sa v tom celom mapovani, splitoch, atd.. na zaciatok moc nezahltil.. teda hladam nieco prehladne co bude bezproblemovo bezat s FL8
dik za info..
s fl8 beha uplne vsetko, aj veci co nejde programovat a su inak preto neoblubene. raz si priradis fadery, ulozis ako project preset a vybavene
najvhodnejsie su samozrejme typy ktore FL podporuje nad ramec generic midi (zoznam najdes vo FL, v nastaveniach pre midi pod controler type, z tych lacnych je tam napriklad edirol pcr 30/50, novation remote, alesis photon)
najvhodnejsie su samozrejme typy ktore FL podporuje nad ramec generic midi (zoznam najdes vo FL, v nastaveniach pre midi pod controler type, z tych lacnych je tam napriklad edirol pcr 30/50, novation remote, alesis photon)
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dik kexik / uz som myslel ze tu komunikuju len stary psy
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viem ze FL je v tomto v pohode len by som potreboval niekoho kto ich ma, alebo skusal ze ako funguju ako sa osvedcili.. tusim atom to tu riesil tak mu skusim napisat
ale inac dik - a nechcem si zohrievat polievocku ale ten spacerecorder je vemi prijemny

viem ze FL je v tomto v pohode len by som potreboval niekoho kto ich ma, alebo skusal ze ako funguju ako sa osvedcili.. tusim atom to tu riesil tak mu skusim napisat
ale inac dik - a nechcem si zohrievat polievocku ale ten spacerecorder je vemi prijemny
