z prednasky purdieho na red bull music academy....




Bernard Purdie: »The part that hurts, that really hurts, is that people don't understand that fixing records was a way of life in the 60's and the 70's. 98% of self contained groups are not on their own albums and I was one of the few drummers that could go in, join the group and make the records. The record companies were paying a lot of money to make these records happen. My thing was that I got along with everyone. I never hollered or was like "well, that's not the way to play that". It was just a job to me, and The Beatles music was just another job for me. 'Cause half of the songs that I played on, I played on 21 of The Beatles tracks - half of them had no drums. They kicked him out in the begining and the whole point, whether you want to believe it or not, it becomes irrelevant after this point but you're gonna find out anyway - he's not on anything. The man made his money and everything else on lies. A man spent a million dollars promoting the Beatles. Brian Epstein spent an amount of money to promote The Beatles that was unheard of in the 60's. Ringo had his place in The Beatles 'cause that's who they wanted and that's who they could control. And that's all it was - it was all about control. He looked the part and he's the one they chose, but when it came to those records and the fixing of those records, 98% of them were first recorded early in England and brought to the USA to be fixed. That's why Capitol and Mercury both have Beatles records. I did mine in the Capitol records studio in New York. I had no idea who The Beatles were, I was just doing a job. And that for me is the hardest thing, 'cause I've had my life threatened too many times. At this point in my life I don't care anymore and it really doesn't bother me whether I talk about it 'cause I don't have to go back there or do anything about it. I'm proud about it for my sake. What he did he made his money, he did what he needed to do, he doesn't have to answer to anybody for what he's done. It's a shame for things to happen that way, but it did happen, and it's happened with too many other people. There are four drummers on The Beatles music, and Ringo's not one of them.« ......."

Beatles bola taky prvy pravy boyband

ale pesnicky maju pjekne

cet sem nakou knizku, kde udajne mccartney tvrdil, ze po kazde session usedl za bici a ringovy party nahral znova sam... osobne to povazuju spis za takovej vykrik do tmy - pisalek si uzije svych 15minut slavy a nazdar...
za chvili nekdo pride s clankem, ze si mccartney s lennonem ani sami nepsali pisnicky...
solarfall: tak ja myslim, ze ty prvni desky nidko nebere moc vazne, ale minimalne od rubber soul to uz s boybandem nemelo nic spolecnyho...

ja mam rad aj ich prve platne

a beatlemania je taky prvy predstavitel vsetkych NKOTB/Take That/Backstreet boys manii ktore prisli na zaciatku 90. rokov.

Plno roznych boybandov s vacsim ci mensim uspechom bolo uz davno pred Beatles. Teda hlavne v Amerike, kde ten show biznis bezal naplno uz od zaciatku storocia a o nahravacie zmluvy sa snazili muzikanti od vzniku radia. Velka vyhoda tej doby, ze technika nebola na takej urovni a kto nevedel tak z kola letel a nepomohol mu ani trendy uces a ani tweedove sako.

Teda k Beatles respect, ale nebral by som vazne vsetko co sa popise. Ringo teda nebol ziadny jazzovy byk, ale vedel relativne v norme odohrat stage.

taktak, nebyl to zadnej gene kruppa, nicmene dyz uz nic, tak jeho zpusob hry na hajtku je legendarni;-) ja osobne ringuv styl celkem obdivuju, je to minimalista, kterej hraje pro kapelu, nicmene pozdeji je i v jeho hre slyset dost velmi inspirativnich breaku a vyhravek...

no, taky nevim, co si o tom myslet...

nick_valensi píše:cet sem nakou knizku, kde udajne mccartney tvrdil, ze po kazde session usedl za bici a ringovy party nahral znova sam... osobne to povazuju spis za takovej vykrik do tmy - pisalek si uzije svych 15minut slavy a nazdar...
za chvili nekdo pride s clankem, ze si mccartney s lennonem ani sami nepsali pisnicky...
solarfall: tak ja myslim, ze ty prvni desky nidko nebere moc vazne, ale minimalne od rubber soul to uz s boybandem nemelo nic spolecnyho...

100% suhlas... od rubber soulu nadol je to pjekny humus, btw, teda aspon pre mna...
ale trebars taky abbey road je nieco, z coho mam bohovsky respekt

Ono často nešlo len o bubeníkovu vôľu, muzika sa musela podriaďovať určitým trendom, v kapele ako boli Beatles proste nemali čo robiť sofistikované bicie sóla a podobne - to sa dialo aj inde, napr Nick Mason v rozhovoroch tvrdil, že od istej doby bol na neho od zvyšných členov Pink Floyd vyvíjaný tlak, aby svoju hru čo najviac zjednodušil.

Či Ringo v štúdiu tie piesne nahral, alebo nie, je síce otázne, ale dá sa o tom tak nanajvýš polemizovať, každopádne koncerty si odohral.

Čo mi pripomína story, ktorú mi vyprával kamarát o jednom zo starých koncertov Tublatanky, kde sa akousi blbou náhodou prišlo na to, že sóla nehrá maťo Ďurinda, ale iný gitarista skrytý za oponou. Čo teda o niečom svedčí.

100% suhlas... od rubber soulu nadol je to pjekny humus, btw, teda aspon pre mna...
ale trebars taky abbey road je nieco, z coho mam bohovsky respekt

Kexik,pochopitelně že máš právo na takový názor,ale právě první skladby odstartovali Beatles jejich karieru.Pro pochopení je nutné vědět co se hrálo před nimi,potom je jasné jaký byl přínos Beatles.Všichni ostatní už jen stavěli na jejich stylu,ale zaroveň se jim dívali jen do prdele.

Myslím, že Ringo odehrál, co měl a to občasné zastupování ve studiu se děje u spousty hvězd. Takže pokud to odehrál slušně na koncertech, tak no problem.
To na Ulricha mám MNOHEM větší pifku... GRRRRRR

styx_oarsman píše:...že sóla nehrá maťo Ďurinda, ale iný gitarista skrytý za oponou. Čo teda o niečom svedčí.

Co je samozrejme uplna kravina a to nechcem Durindu nijako obhajovat, kedze gitaristicky ho nepovazujem za az tak zaujimaveho...

Tudy píše:...
To na Ulricha mám MNOHEM větší pifku... GRRRRRR

Co take ?

tudy: tiez ma zaujima... aky fake ma za usami Ulrich? predpokladam ze sa bavime o Larsovi Ulrichovi, teda..

Lars nie je fake.... ale cim je starsi tak bubnuje horsie a horsie ( a je blbsi a blbsi)